-Enemy Brothers (by Constance Savery)
(the sets will be comparatively cheap, however, it all depends on the acting. We'll have to get British actors for this one. And everything depends on the actor we get for Dym. I have a feeling that this one has alot of potential in book-to-screen transitions. (trying to get what the narrator lets you know translated back into raw life, do you know what I mean? Like when the narrator says "the others tried to cheer him up, but he was sulky" you can have this whole 3 minute scene that further develops all the characters. It has to flow. Plus for some reason I would like the opening to be in the Norwegian sea, or maybe something with Dym in a plane. I dunno, but he opening has to kind of suggest war/struggle...like what is going on. Tony also somehow stands for humanity, I think. Maybe. That's kinda weird sounding. But doh mean? Then it has to catch all that wwii-struggle, people in Minas Tirith (book) , the Alfred the great Saxons are coming and the onslaught of Sophie Scholl's enemies feeling of the whole era...
-Lantern Bearers (by Rosemary Sutcliff)
This one will make a very very good movie. It says most in what it doesn't say, in what happens between the lines. In the symbolism, the not even overt enough to be called symbolism...the pattern of sunlight through the branches on the monk's wall, and the sound of bees. There is so much there, and must be carefully book-to-screen, to catch it all. Especially that what the book is really about is not lost between the cracks of action that the book pretends to be about. Lots of scenery. Lots of focusing on trees and stuff, for some reason, lots of Britain.
-Joseph
This, I am afraid, has a bigger price tag. The sets will have to be Egypt and Palestine. Maybe the Negev.Alot of what it means to be a man, and to be Holy, when everyone and everything (around you, and back at home) isn't. To know the God of your fathers when an exile in a prison.I feel like this one will mean alot, but am unsure how. Right now I feel like I have enough sense to realize I am not smart enough.
-Mimitsrayim. Out of Egypt. Moshe will be the main (though barely there) character, and it will seem to center around a random Hebrew girl and her family, and how they adjust to this whole, wander-in-the-desert/Holy God/being a people of God thing. It will focus on the dynamics within her family, her aunt loving Egypt once she is in the wilderness, her mother complaining, her father still having faith and trying to understand why his brother had to be killed for unholiness, the rabble rousers, the girl struggling to form an understanding of who this Holy One is out in the wilderness. The whole holiness coming to a very unholy world, and the purifying the desert. But it will really be about Moshe, somehow.
-Acts. The book of Acts is fairly bursting with movie scenes. Peter of course would be a main character. Perhaps better to aim at it from a different level, like through the eyes of a random Jewish Kid or greek slave, and play up on what they hear. See it from the eye level of a first century worker, and how they got the information, etc. We could do it told through the eyes of this person, as if they were telling you their life. We could go from the omnipresent angle, because I really want the Peter before the sanhedrin scene. I think it would be better to do it through the eyes of a child. I don't really know why.
-StoryKeepers
(http://www.storykeepers.com/intro.html)
this sounds so lame, and probably violates a copyright. But StoryKeepers cartoon touched me deeply as a kid. I feel like it was a deep story translated into cartoon/slapstick language so the kids could "get" it. But it touched the kids (me) because they meant so much more than the slapstick thing. It really meant something. Someone has to make a grown up movie about he early church that is NOT really about extolling the *glamorous* lives of the pagan Romans, soap operas involving gorgeous red headed early Christians, or the cool swishy capes of the soldiers.
The arena wasn't glamorous. I thought it was, I really did. But it wasn't...any more than concrete gaschambers or Stalin's re-education camps. But the amazing thing is the Presence of God coming into even that...and making something that can only be called, for lack of the right word, beautiful.
A story about the early church that tells it as it really was. About real people. Real suffering, real courage, real faith, and a real God.
-Anthropos, as of now is the brainchild and intellectual property of one of my esteemed friends.
-Among the Nations [not final title, which must be very clever 2sided and poetic]
For this one, I see a picture. A young girl, perhaps 12, stands by a wall of brick, pressing the side of he face against it, thinking. It is on the side of a street, no bishops in chariots are coming, but she is afraid, and thinking. Blended with that is another young girl, Russian...and I am not sure what she is doing.
A side by side story of two girls growing up in the middle ages, probably in the Ukraine or something. One a Jewish girl, one a Christian Russian. Its a bifurcated story, where the two never speak to eachother, perhaps at the end, they will pass in the street. There will be two plot lines, two stories, two lives. It will show persecution, faith, a whole bunch. This one is going to be done by me and B. She will do the Russian side, I the Jewish. We will both have to research a whole lot, and I regret that I only have 1/8 instinct to go by (great grandma from Ukraine...) but will read a lot. I suspect this one will be emotional. But most of all, not trying to prove a sharp point, or get a message across, but just be, a slice in the life of then. As it really was. All the messy issues, everything, thrown out there in 2 1/2 hours with no easy little recipe to sort it all out, without making you think, and think, and think.
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And "Among the Nations" will have a soundtrack of Chassidic sounding music and Jewish Musics, plus Russian Church chants. When they pass in the street will be at a very tense moment in both of their lives, and there will be everyone rushing past and the camera will somehow hold their faces, and they for one fivesecond moment (slowed down to slowmotion for movie time) they will look right into eachother's eyes. Really looking. One of those moments, like in the Dawn Treader, when Lucy and the Mergirl look at eachother, and really understand. Then they would pass and it would go on. Their lives will somehow be connected, more connected then they realize, with the twists and the turns of the plot somehow affecting eachother, but they never meet, except in the street.
I feel so honored as your "esteemed friend" :~)
PS: Do you think WM for Dym? I don't know, I think maybe cause he's got the right personality
You know what, I think I have vague childhood memories of the Storykeepers...I sort of remember this random Roman threatening one of the Christians and making him betray the others or something, and the betrayer said "What is my reward?" and the Roman said "Your life" sort of like in Narnia "Your reward is your life, it's not much" So now we see that Adamson is a SCAMMER as well as all the other horrible things he is. Anyways, I think it's high time someone made a Biblical movie that was not 1) cheesy kids' version 2)stuffy adult low-budget version 3) Hollywood-ized story with Biblical names 4)as it was once described by an esteemed friend, the "random Roman romances with some apostle running around in the background so they can call it a "Christian" movie.
If you want any more ideas, I would really like to make a movie about the life of Christ. Because I don't think they ever really do him right--they make Him way too girly with this long hippie-ish hair and His face is never dirty and He never looks stressed out, just looks like this nice happy person who went around telling nice stories to people. Well, actually, I think Passion of the Christ did a really good job, but it was only the last bit of His life obviously--I want to do a lot of the stories, yet somehow do the timing and such to make it flow like a unified story. OK, what I mean is, I'm NOT critizing the Bible or anything, but sometimes when people make these movies straight from the text they feel like a series of disjointed vignettes rather than a progression of events leading up to a plot, etc. Of course I do NOT want to change the Bible, or anything, but I'd want to do things to sort of weave it together--perhaps link stories together with random hypothetical discussions among the disciples, or showing bits of people's lives before they met Jesus, as foreshadowing/building up to when they actually do. However, I once saw this slightly cheesy play where they went overboard on the linking aspect and made this one little boy be present at every single major event in the life of Christ (he had a tradesman uncle or something who conveniently transported him to wherever a miracle or something was about to happen) and all the important minor characters in the life of Christ turned out to be related somehow...which I don't think that's how it really was. OK, does this make any sense?
But also I want to show Jesus' humanity--His face probably wasn't always clean, His clothes weren't perfectly ironed, and He was probably a common-looking Jewish man with rough hands from carpentry. Not a girly-looking Anglo-Saxon man. You know what I mean?
Chans, (how do you like your new name?) :-)
I wish you could tell all your ideas to what's-it-called...what's-his-name's little company.
OK, that was REALLY specific. I mean the people that made Bella.
Chans, if I finish the story about the time-traveling inventors will you make it into a movie for me??? I know it doesn't have a lot of deep meaning or anything but I feel that it's worth something just to have a good wholesome adventure movie w/o the usual cussing, etc...
Don't forget my tormented tenth century soap opera which involves everyone marrying the wrong person and winding up dead!
:-)
centred on Constantinople and Kiev, of course.
and true
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Yipee. That sounds good.
Okay, what shall I comment on first?
About representations of Jesus, that is EXACTLY what I feel about most pictures/representations of Jesus. The Jesus Film Project was alright, but from what I have seen of (is it Jesus of Nazareth or Gospel of John?) 5 minutes of it, and I was going into a fit. He looks like a girl with dreamy eyes that doesn't understand God's holiness or anything. I will save this little rant for another time.
Yes, the Passion, I felt like, did it right. And saying that about Jesus, means a lot. Words fail me.
I know, it was such a short bit of his life, I wish so much that they did Acts and the Resurrection and all, but I suppose they went for the deeper and shorter. I wish Mel Gibson made a sequel. (or several sequels )
About "He was probably a common-looking Jewish man with rough hands from carpentry. Not a girly-looking Anglo-Saxon man. You know what I mean?"
YES!! That is why I love Richard and Francis Hook's pictures of Jesus so much. He is so real, so man, so (not anglo-saxon), and so JESUS! I will post some pictures for your edification on my highly descriptive description.
About expressing the human side of Jesus, I think I know what you mean. But at the same time, I feel rather nervous when it comes to made-up lines in the mouth of Jesus. So many people have tried it and it usually fails. In Bronze Bow whenever Jesus spoke with words, I felt like it was the weakest part of the book (the rest of the book was really strong)
Then there was some movie where they make (I only heard about this, never saw it)Mary give Jesus ego talks like Liv gives to Viggo..and it curls my toes, the thought of that.
In John White he is very daring with putting word's into Gaal's mouth, and half the time it really rings so true I cried (in tower of Geburah, part of iron scepter, and in the changer's mouth in swordbearer) but half the time it didn't (I didn't feel like Gaal was so real in Gaal the conquerer and the quest for the king)
In The Passion, it really worked because a) pretty much 1/2 of John is the Passion, and they had so much of Christ's words already, and when they did add things, it was from what He does say in Revelation "See [mother] I am making all things new" . So it rang so true.
It’s a dangerous tricky business, putting words into the mouth of the living God.
I guess I am a bit of a 'fraidy cat, if I have half a chance of ruining it splendidly I had rather take my chances on the Virgin or the Saints.
But about "weaving in" stuff and telling stories from the Bible with more details, YESSS!!! Right now Ruth is playing scene by scene in my head.
I was so pumped up about this when the realization finally hit me that there WAS all that personal background stuff going on for the Bible People, its just that we have the bare facts. I wanted so badly to “live their lives, feel their fears, know their thoughts, love their loves, breathe with their breaths”. I was then swiftly disillusioned with Christian Historical fiction. It always (atleast those that I have seen) seems to fall so flat, Americans thinking like Americans, talking like Americans, having their American/modernesque struggles and issues and soap operas in Biblical costumes. Not saying they weren’t people as much as we are, but its sad when you can clip out “new horse” and put in “new car” (my own made up example) When the characters feel so modern pasted back into a culture the author doesn’t understand.
About Mary, did you see the Nativity Story? (bc if you liked it, I apologize for what will follow)
I only saw a few clips and read interviews and reviews (bc I was obsessed with seeing it for a while) and I mad. While following the facts well enough, They took the the mother of Jesus and turned her it into a romance story. I am not saying there wasn't a Joseph-Mary romance (bekah's gonna kill me if she sees this, with her catholic sympathies on this subject) but it must have been so much bigger then teenage-girl-gets-pregnant
-nice-boyfriend-won't-abandon-her--even-though-mean-judgemental-parents-are-so-mean
I mean, they SAID it was a virgin birth and all, but there were too many overtones (says hannah the expert, who saw but a clip) of teenage pregnancy in our modern world. I mean it was a teenage pregnancy, but they stripped the story of its other half. There was no earth-shattering sense of how big the event was, of HOLINESS, of the GRANDEUR OF GOD. The angel looked like a guy with a bad hair day (even slightly creepy) Jesus seems something that comes in to test Mary and Josephs romance.
COME ON! THE HOLY GOD OF SINAI WHOM PEOPLE COULD NOT EVEN TOUCH THE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN LEST THEY DIE, just became a burping baby and they have no sense of awe. Its just a sweet love-story with un-real looking wisemen and cute little shepherds. Oh yes, and the freaked parents.
The beautiful young girl who played Mary proceeded to get pregnant right after it was made. This cause a little furor, and the movie didn't do so well as it might have. But after seeing the clips, it made sense. The girl liked her role so very much.
[The movie was directed by the was-a-christian-in-her-childhood director who specializes in troubled teen movies ("Thirteen" for example) so she just interpreted the birth of Christ as another one. Prettier, of course. ]
And the Mary-actress was not playing the Holy Virgin Mother of Jesus, she was playing a sweet innocent teenage girl who finds herself pregnant and is ostracized by all except dependable boyfriend.
So it wasn't really about the Nativity after all, and it makes sense that the kid got pregnant at 16 afterwards (though, in all fairness, her parents were never married and she probably doesn't know better, and she didn't abort her baby)
Because that was her role. There was so little Awe, so little holy, so little understanding for the Glory of God that is so great it kills men who touch the ark. Terrible, in the best sense, like Aslan's face on the mountain, like a brightness that is so bright Saul's eyes go blind from just beholding it.
And the God of Sinai came to be born from the womb of young Jewish woman during their defeat under the Roman empire...its a story so down to earth and real and epic at the same time.
But the "Two from Galilee" crowd seems to miss at least half of it, and the better, realer half. Leaving it feeling fake...do you know what I mean?
Then, in my humble Sheldon overconfidence, I decided I could do better.
That is what I have been obsessing about for the past week. Joseph. Seeing what he was like in the prison, a holy boy/man in an unholy world (even from an unholy family) and out of all this mess comes this one shining man, who must fight, fight so hard to be a man, in the face of what all his culture and adopted culture says that manhood is. And he must face betrayal and loneliness and brutality and injustice and temptation and no friends and the whole world thinking you were a scummy jerk---and through it all, when it says “and the Lord was with Joseph, in prison” you get the feeling that Joseph is learning it all, from God. Step by step, how to be a man, how to be righteous, for the first time, with no precedent, step by step with God in suffering. And of course being the romantic sucker that I am I start wondering about Joseph’s wife, the pagan priest’s daughter. The gods of Egypt always struck me as so terrifying, so nightmarish, I wonder what it was like for her to marry this red-headed Hebrew that spoke of the God of his fathers, a new God, a God that would be with you in prison. Rebekah sniffed and said I was traveling the Two-From-Galilee direction.
Moshe. Ruth. Isaiah. Virgin Mary. Peter. random demon possessed girl in Acts who is freed. etc etc.
Peter is esp a big deal, I keep seeing him in prison trying to talk to his wife through the bars, saying very Richard-Wurmbrandish things. Its a picture that won't go away, him trying to comfort her, as she is crying, him behind the prison gate (did their prison’s have gates?) and him saying “Miriam, if He suffered, if they crucified Him, can we who follow expect any less?” but with such love, and suffering.
I want to talk more, but shall save it for Friday.
I love you!!!
and yes, lets make that time travel a movie!!
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WHAT is with the ego talks? "Oh you poor little omnipotent thing" yeah that sounds weird.
Anyways, yes, I agree, I don't think we should add Jesus quotes that aren't actually in the Bible (because, after all, isn't that the definition of heresy??) But actually, I have been thinking about what I said since--about the disjointed episode thing. Actually, I'm wondering if the Gospels were written like that on purpose? OK, that sounds dumb, God always has a purpose. "Yeah, He meant to write the Gospels like that and just wrote the rest of the Bible at random" NO. Well, what I mean is, I'm sure there is a reason for that particular style, even if it isn't the style of a typical American novel. Maybe because we don't need to know all the details?? I was picturing a movie with the stories of individual humans being like a solid tapestry, with Jesus running through it like a golden thread. However, the Bible presents it as Jesus' story being the tapestry, and the other people's stories pop up as many little threads along the way. So maybe...little personal-life vignettes shouldn't be added? But maybe they should. I don't know. But it would be cool to add, in between scenes, little behind-the-scenes shots to give viewers a sense of how much was going on at the time--random Romans marching through the streets, random fishermen, etc. Not really saying anything, just random scenery shots w/ cool Jewish music. Now the tricky part...how would one portray the childhood of Jesus? Maybe just sort of show the Nativity part as one of those pre-Credits things, then have zooming credits over scenery shots of people going to Jerusalem, and lead up to 12-yr-old Jesus. But then that would leave out Simon/Anna (were those the names?) and it would be kind of cool to show a bit of their life in Egypt.
Oh, what is "Two from Galilee?" sounds kinda cheesy...
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